Comic 345 - Page 15

4th Jan 2016, 4:45 PM in Chapter 22: An Explosive Hunch!
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ImperialWrath 14th Jul 2017, 7:43 PM edit delete reply
Words cannot describe the level of awesome you have managed to contain in this series. One question though, did you think of perhaps having someone perform the unlock potential technique on Yamcha? Like Gohan and Krillin. I think with Yamcha's level now, it would at least put him at SSJ/Super Namekian level.
Guest 21st Jul 2017, 7:55 PM edit delete reply
Anshin unlocked his potential the moment he entered into his body.
ImperialWrath 23rd Jul 2017, 11:52 AM edit delete reply
Ah, yeah I went back and reread that and caught it.
ImperialWrath 9th Nov 2017, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
I've once again re-read this magnificent specimen of a web-comic, and in my opinion, hands down the best DBZ one on the internet. But reading this particular chapter, and specifically this page and the past couple of pages, I have to say I think Yamcha should be able to take the Kaio-ken to at least SSJ 1 level.

And here's my reasoning as to why, in the series we know that after training for a few months on King Kaio's planet, at x10 normal gravity, Goku was advised (and was capable) to use the Kaio-ken up to x2, and not to go beyond that. And of course, we saw what happened once he went beyond that, it damaged his body. However, after arriving at Namek, we saw that he went from being able to handle Kaio-ken x2 to x20 (during his fight with Freeza), after training at 100x normal gravity for just under a week. Notice the common denominator here, after training at 10x gravity he could consistently use Kaio-ken x2 (10/2 = 5), and after training at 100x gravity he could consistently use Kaio-ken x20 (100/20 = 5).

Now I'm not normally one to rely on math (it was my worst subject in school once it got past Algebra, lmao), but going by these numbers consistent with the series, with Yamcha having spent 6 months training from 100x to 400x gravity (that means he spent 2 months per level on average); then Yamcha should at best be able to take the Kaio-ken up to x80 (400/5=80). So going by that theory, Kaio-ken x50 should totally be doable for Yamcha at this point.
Firan25 13th Feb 2018, 8:02 AM edit delete reply
You have to take into consideration that both of them are two different species and benefit from training differently.

Goku has the Zenkai boost, which he gets stronger after nearly getting killed. As you said after he went X4 against vegeta, he got a power boost, since he had to be hospitalized.

yamcha though is a human, and doesn't gain a strength boost from nearly being killed. Thus he wouldn't benefit from training himself nearly to death. (I know he got the artificial Zankai boost, but he trained in 400gs before that.)
ImperialWrath 15th Apr 2018, 5:33 PM edit delete reply
@Firan25 - True, they're both of different species, and so they grow at different levels. That's already been stated, specifically during Yamcha's discussion with Olibu.

However, the Zenkai boosts added to a Saiyan's power level, it has little effect on adjusting Goku's body to the Kaioken. Remember, once Goku had mastered training at 100x Earth's gravity, he stated that he was confident he could handle Kaioken x10 with no problem. That means that at best, the highest he should've been able to go against Frieza should've been x10.

Yet, we all know he went beyond that to x20, multiple times, and at a point where he had already burned a lot of stamina. Plus, it's not like he had done any additional gravity training between the time landed on Namek, and the time he fought Frieza. This is why I personally believe Yamcha's should be able to handle Kaioken x50 with little problems.
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